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Coaches' all-state baseball teams released

Posted Monday, June 10, 2013, at 10:19 PM

The Missouri High School Baseball Coaches Association released its all-state teams on Monday. You'll find them below. Apologies for the formatting and all-caps, but that's how the teams came typed I didn't quite have the patience to retype the entire list. I tried to make it better by making the sub-headings easier to read.

I put all the selections from the semoball area in italics. If I missed someone, please shame me in the comments and I'll add the player I missed.

As with pretty much any list like this, there seem to be some head-scratchers, but it is a great acknowledgement for the players that are listed. I know from experience that it is ridiculously difficult to help put together a list like this, so I commend the MHSBCA and its members for taking on the task. It is up to each school's coach to nominate their players for the teams, and I also know from experience that not all coaches nominate players, for what that's worth.

Class 1

PITCHERS -- FIRST TEAM

JR SETH RESSEL ORAN

SR BRANDON BRIDGES COOTER

JR BRAD ROBERTS NORTHEAST R-4

SR SPENCER KELLY STURGEON

PITCHERS -- SECOND TEAM

SR TYLER WHITE NEW FRANKLIN

SOPH WILL SAPPINGTON DADEVILLE

SOPH TREY GREEN NORTHWEST HUGHESVILLE

JR ZANE MEDLEY DADEVILLE

CATCHERS -- FIRST TEAM

SR CHAD TIEMAN SANTA FE

SR ALEX HEURING ORAN

SOPH DREW FLAGG WEAUBLEAU

CATCHERS --SECOND TEAM

JR LUKE STRATTON MARION COUNTY R-2

SOPH TOMMIE WILLIS MACKS CREEK

SR AARON GRAHAM NAYLOR

CATCHERS -- HONORABLE MENTION

SR MITCH HILSABECK SOUTH NODAWAY

SOPH WILLIAM ROBERTS STURGEON

INFIELDERS -- FIRST TEAM

JR CORTLEN AUSTIN NORTHWEST HUGHESVILLE

SOPH WYATT WILKINSON SANTA FE

SR ANDREW CURRY SANTA FE

JR DALTON DULL LAKELAND

SR CALAB KAUFFMAN WEAUBLEAU

INFIELDERS --SECOND TEAM

JR ALEX HOLEM NEW FRANKLIN

SR LOGAN ROGERS HERMITAGE

SR ZACH JERMAIN SOUTH NODAWAY

SR AUSTIN HUFFERD MACKS CREEK

INFIELDERS -- HONORABLE MENTION

JR MARCUS RIGDON NAYLOR

JR JACOB WOOD LINN COUNTY

SR BRANDON NIENDICK WELLINGTON NAPOLEON

SOPH AARON SCHUSTER WELLINGTON NAPOLEON

OUTFIELDERS -- FIRST TEAM

SOPH TANNER WHITE NEW FRANKLIN

SR COLE WODRICH SANTA FE

FR BEN HINZ SANTA FE

OUTFIELDERS -- SECOND TEAM

JR MARSHALL BYERS LAKELAND

SOPH TANNER SANDKER STURGEON

OUTFIELDERS -- HONORABLE MENTION

FR ROBERT IDEKER HERMITAGE

DH/UTILITY -- FIRST TEAM

JR KEATON GRAF SANTA FE

SR AARON BARRATT NORTHEAST R-4

SR KODY MOORE ORAN

DH/UTILITY -- SECOND TEAM

JR TYLER HULL NEW FRANKLIN

SOPH RYAN SEIDEL STURGEON

JR BRIAN DEVIVO MACKS CREEK

DH/UTILITY -- HONORABLE MENTION

SR JOSH ALLEN LINN COUNTY

JR JAY OSBORN LAKELAND

SOPH RILEY HICKERSON COOTER

Class 2

PITCHERS -- FIRST TEAM

SR DREW INCE HARTVILLE

SR LOGAN MOOSE WEST PLATTE

JR DUSTIN HOUART HOLCOMB

SOPH ANDREW BASLER VALLE CATHOLIC

PITCHERS -- SECOND TEAM

SR AUSTIN HOEWING CANTON

JR CODY PAYNE CHAFFEE

JR CAMERON CLARK HOLCOMB

SR MARKUS RADER CABOOL

PITCHERS -- HONORABLE MENTION

FR MCKAULLEY STEPHENSON WEST PLATTE

JR BOSTON DICKERSON ARCHIE

SR ISAAC MINNICK IBERIA

JR A.J. BUFORD HARTVILLE

CATCHERS -- FIRST TEAM

JR TYLER NIEMANN CANTON

SR DREW PEARSON CABOOL

SR JARED MEYER WEST PLATTE

CATCHERS -- SECOND TEAM

SR HAYDEN BROWN CONCORDIA

SR GABE BOHNERT SAXONY LUTHERAN

JR HUNTER SWAFFORD HOLCOMB

CATCHERS -- HONORABLE MENTION

SR BRENDAN ROSS LOUISIANA

JR AARON RICHARDSON MILAN

JR TREY ALLISON BARAT ACADEMY

INFIELDERS -- FIRST TEAM

SR AUSTIN ESSICK BILLINGS

SR RILEY BRANDT TIPTON

SR MICHAEL GLOVER HOLCOMB

SR MATT HEILI WEST PLATTE

SR JARED WALKER CHAFFEE

INFIELDERS -- SECOND TEAM

SR DOMINIC STRUEMPH VIENNA

SR JONAH WALKER CRANE

JR CASS HEIMSOTH CONCORDIA

SOPH CODY BIRDSONG NEELYVILLE

JR TIM FOX BLOOMFIELD

INFIELDERS -- HONORABLE MENTION

SR BRYCE ELLIOTT MILAN

SOPH DANIEL BERGTHOLDT VALLE CATHOLIC

SR JACOB MEBRUER LINN

SR WADE WOOD TIPTON

JR AUSTIN THRASHER SCOTLAND COUNTY

OUTFIELDERS -- FIRST TEAM

SR JUSTIN NORMAN NEELYVILLE

SR MATT KEITH HARTVILLE

JR JUSTIN ROTH VALLE CATHOLIC

SR DYLAN GUTHRIE WEST PLATTE

OUTFIELDERS -- SECOND TEAM

JR CLAYTON MEYER RUSSELVILLE

JR HUNTER SIMMONS HARTVILLE

SR DYLAN OGRON LONE JACK

JR BRANDON BERHORST CANTON

OUTFIELDERS -- HONORABLE MENTION

JR DARRIAN DICKEY IBERIA

SR NATHAN SMITH BILLINGS

SR AUSTIN HANCOCK PURDY

DH/UTILITY -- FIRST TEAM

SR TYLER LITTEREST VALLE CATHOLIC

SOPH RYAN MANTLE LINN

SR CHANDLER WOLF RUSSELVILLE

DH/UTILITY -- SECOND TEAM

SR CAMERON TERRY PURDY

SR CODY BOYERS NEELYVILLE

JR MASON PRICE BELLE

DH/UTILITY -- HONORABLE MENTION

SR TRAVIS PHILLIPS BLOOMFIELD

JR REECE CARMICHAEL CANTON

SR ETHAN BERINGER HARRISBURG

Class 3

PITCHERS -- FIRST TEAM

SR BRENDAN BEATTY HALLSVILLE

SR JUSTIN MURPHY NORTH CALLAWAY

JR TYLER AST SPRINGFIELD CATHOLIC

SR DYLAN RILEY HOLDEN

PITCHERS -- SECOND TEAM

SR SETH LEHMAN FATIMA

SR JACOB KOELLING BLAIR OAKS

JR TAYLOR THOMPSON CUBA

JR MATTHEW TIPTON SPRINGFIELD CATHOLIC

PITCHERS- HONORABLE MENTION

SR CONNOR MAROLF LUTHERAN ST. CHARLES

SR BLAKE EDWARDS LAWSON

SR TYLER MARTIN CLEVER

SR JASHAWN MCDANIEL NEW MADRID COUNTY CENTRAL

SR WILL FUNKENBUSCH PALMYRA

CATCHERS -- FIRST TEAM

SR CHANCE WOLFE CLEVER

SR RYAN FORTNER SCOTT CITY

JR LUCAS SWINDLE LUTHERAN ST. CHARLES

CATCHERS -- SECOND TEAM

SR SOLOMON WEIDER DIXON

JR BRYER NASH CUBA

JR CODY ARELLA ORCHARD FARM

CATCHERS -- HONORABLE MENTION

JR JAKE HOOD LICKING

SR ROB RUZICKA SPRINGFIELD CATHOLIC

JR JONATHAN ZUPTICH BISHOP LEBLOND

INFIELDERS -- FIRST TEAM

SR BRAD JELINEK WARSAW

JR SAM PREUSSER LUTHERAN ST. CHARLES

SR DEREK HURST FORSYTH

JR PATRICK DILLON BISHOP LEBLOND

SOPH JEREMY EIERMAN WARSAW

INFIELDERS -- SECOND TEAM

JR RYAN BOUSE CUBA

JR BRAYTON BALLENGER SPRINGFIELD CATHOLIC

SOPH LANE DUNCAN LICKING

SR GARRETT GIBSON SUMMIT CHRISTIAN

SOPH CLAYTON BRINKLEY WEST COUNTY

INFIELDERS -- HONORABLE MENTION

SOPH TANNER CANTRELL HOUSTON

SR RYAN JINKS DIAMOND

JR REID KESEL FATIMA

SR TIM CLAYTON NEW MADRID COUNTY CENTRAL

SR RANGER CURTIS CLEVER

OUTFIELDERS -- FIRST TEAM

SR BRETT DIRNBERGER SCOTT CITY

SR WYATT PORTER LICKING

JR CAMERON WILLIAMS CUBA

SR ERIC SMITH SPRINGFIELD CATHOLIC

OUTFIELDERS -- SECOND TEAM

SR TAYLOR DARTING FORSYTH

JR MATTHEW MCCULLOUGH BISHOP LEBLOND

SR TYLER WADE LICKING

SR FRANK ALFORD ALTON

OUTFIELDERS -- HONORABLE MENTION

JR ADAM VOLNER STEELVILLE

SR TRAVIS PENNEWELL CLEVER

FR ANDREW MEIER DIXON

DH/UTILITY -- FIRST TEAM

SR PATRICK SCHNIEDERS FATIMA

SR TANNER MURPHY MALDEN

SOPH JAY KAUFMAN FORSYTH

SR A.J. BOYER SUMMIT CHRISTIAN

DH/UTILITY -- SECOND TEAM

SR AUSTIN MEINE WRIGHT CITY

SR KALON HONEYCUTT ALTON

SR MATT BORGEN HOLDEN

DH/UTILITY -- HONORABLE MENTION

FR LAYN HURST FORSYTH

SR KYLER MAXEY BLAIR OAKS

SR TYLER TUEPKER WRIGHT CITY

Class 4

PITCHERS -- FIRST TEAM

SR BEN LOVELL WESTMINSTER CHRISTIAN

SR JUSTIN LANDEWEE CAPE NOTRE DAME

SR CONNER MATSON OAK GROVE

SR JUSTIN KING LOGAN ROGERSVILLE

PITCHERS -- SECOND TEAM

JR BRENNAN HEHNER WESTMINSTER CHRISTIAN

SR DAVIS VANDERSLICE WESTMINSTER CHRISTIAN

SR TONY HELFRICH ST. FRANCIS BORGIA

SR PRESTON MILLER KIRKSVILLE

PITCHERS -- HONORABLE MENTION

SR JORDAN MAGERS KIRKSVILLE

SR CALEB HEIN BOONVILLE

SR PRESTON BAILEY SAVANNAH

SR DAKOTA GRAHAM ODESSA

CATCHERS -- FIRST TEAM

SR JALEN POINDEXTER BOONVILLE

JR BRETT BOND WESTMINSTER CHRISTIAN

JR SAM FRAZEN PEMBROKE HILL

CATCHERS -- SECOND TEAM

SR CHASE SIMMONS CAPE NOTRE DAME

JR JAKE KIENZLER OAK GROVE

SR NICO CODEMO WARRENSBURG

CATCHERS -- HONORABLE MENTION

SOPH COLE BORNHOP LUTHERAN SOUTH

SR ZACH BISHOP MARSHALL

JR JUSTIN RAY ST. JAMES

INFIELDERS -- FIRST TEAM

SR BRETT MARR WARRENSBURG

JR SHANE BENES WESTMINSTER CHRISTIAN

JR DALTON HORSTMEIER FULTON

SR ZACH NIXON BOONVILLE

SR SEANN BAKER OAK GROVE

INFIELDERS -- SECOND TEAM

JR DALAN MERRIMANN SENECA

JR CALEB HICKS WESTMINSTER CHRISTIAN

SR GUNNER WESTERN KIRKSVILLE

SR DEREK MITCHELL CENTRAL PARK HILLS

INFIELDERS -- HONORABLE MENTION

JR KYLE KINNER WESTMINSTER CHRISTIAN

SOPH AUSTIN HULBERT BOONVILLE

OUTFIELDERS -- FIRST TEAM

SR EVAN GRUENER LOGAN ROGERSVILLE

SR CHASE LEAVY WARRENSBURG

SR BRYCE BELL WESTMINSTER CHRISTIAN

SR DAKOTA GLORE POTOSI

OUTFIELDERS -- SECOND TEAM

SR LEVI HARMON OAK GROVE

SR KYLER SHOFF MOUNT VERNON

SR TYLER WILT SAVANNAH

SR JONATHAN BROCE KIRKSVILLE

OUTFIELDERS -- HONORABLE MENTION

SR JAKE FORD ST. JAMES

SR MARK KRANTZ VAN HORN

SOPH ETHAN SANDER BOONVILLE

DH/UTILITY -- FIRST TEAM

SR J.W. MCGRAW ODESSA

SR COLTON WEBBER SENECA

SR COLE DOHERTY OAK GROVE

DH/UTILITY -- SECOND TEAM

SR DEVIN HAMMOCK POTOSI

JR TYLER LAPLANTE PEMBROKE HILL

JR PAYTON RAWLINS SENECA

DH/UTILITY -- HONORABLE MENTION

SOPH CODY CREED MEXICO

SR MATT JONES ST. FRANCIS BORGIA

JR LEVI KELSEY VAN HORN

Class 5

PITCHERS -- FIRST TEAM

SR JORDAN KNUTSON LEE'S SUMMIT

JR ALEX LANGE LEE'S SUMMIT WEST

SR DEVIN WILLIAMS HAZELWOOD WEST

SR RYAN FRANKLIN FORT ZUMWALT WEST

SR BRIAN HOWARD ST. LOUIS UNIV. HIGH

PITCHERS -- SECOND TEAM

SR JUSTIN ATCHISON WILLARD

SR AUSTIN SOUTHMAYD FRANCIS HOWELL

JR RYAN BERNSKOETTER ROCK BRIDGE

SR BRIAN ALEWINE STALEY

SR DALTON MOATS PARK HILL

PITCHERS -- HONORABLE MENTION

SR ROB EWALD LADUE

SR ALEX MERITHEW FORT OSAGE

SR ANDREW QUINN ST. LOUIS UNIV. HIGH

SR JOE HUBER ROCKHURST

CATCHERS -- FIRST TEAM

JR COLBY FITCH HICKMAN

SR JACK KLAGES VIANNEY

JR NIC PERKINS FRANCIS HOWELL

CATCHERS -- SECOND TEAM

JR RYAN TOLIVER FORT OSAGE

SOPH ALEX BARTON HELIAS

SR JOE SCHRIMPF CBC

INFIELDERS -- FIRST TEAM

SR ZAC PERKINS FRANCIS HOWELL

SR NATHAN WINFREY LIBERTY

SR MATT BROWN VIANNEY

SR JANSEN SMITH ROCK BRIDGE

JR JOHN OLIVER STALEY

INFIELDERS -- SECOND TEAM

SR BRETT GRAHAM JOPLIN

JR CHAD SUTTON FORT OSAGE

SR ETHAN HOWSER WAYNESVILLE

JR LUKE LATHAM WILLARD

SR DAVID STOBER BLUE SPRINGS

SR SETH SOTO LEE'S SUMMIT NORTH

INFIELDERS -- HONORABLE MENTION

SR TODD CZINEGE ROCKHURST

JR DREW QUINONES FORT ZUMWALT SOUTH

JR KEITH GRIESHABER MARQUETTE

SR KOLE HUMMEL STALEY

SR MITCH LARKIN FRANCIS HOWELL

OUTFIELDERS -- FIRST TEAM

JR ELI DILDAY FRANCIS HOWELL

JR MONTE HARRISON LEE'S SUMMIT WEST

SR AUSTIN VERSCHOORE FORT ZUMWALT WEST

JR KEATON PRESLEY WILLARD

OUTFIELDERS -- SECOND TEAM

SR LEX KAPLAN LADUE

JR MATT SCHEIBEL MARQUETTE

SR MICHAEL PFEIFER WILLARD

JR DANNY BIGGS FORT ZUMWALT WEST

SR IAN DOTSON SEDALIA SMITH COTTON

OUTFIELDERS -- HONORABLE MENTION

SOPH JOE BARBEE ROCK BRIDGE

SR JORDAN BACKES HELIAS

SR DYLAN BRAUNER JEFFERSON CITY

JR KYLE REED BLUE SPRINGS

DH/UTILITY -- FIRST TEAM

SR CALVIN MUNSON FRANCIS HOWELL

SR LOGAN GRAY ROCKHURST

SR DREW BRIDGES CARTHAGE

DH/UTILITY -- SECOND TEAM

SR JUSTIN PAULSEN CBC

JR REECE EDDINS BLUE SPRINGS SOUTH

SR TREVOR SCHNIEDERS HELIAS

DH/UTILITY -- HONORABLE MENTION

JR JAKE BURGER CBC

SR DEREK PIKE FORT OSAGE

SR NATE GREEN FRANCIS HOWELL

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No Jackson players? A bit surprising. Nice to see teams like Oran, Chaffee, and Bloomfield well represented.

-- Posted by SportsMediaInformant on Mon, Jun 10, 2013, at 10:40 PM
A kid gets drafted in the 4th round by the Atlanta Braves as a catcher but can't even make honorable mention All-State as a catcher. Also, no Kody Moore, that's surprising.

-- Posted by crackerjack on Tue, Jun 11, 2013, at 10:04 AM
DH/UTILITY -- FIRST TEAM

JR KEATON GRAF SANTA FE

SR AARON BARRATT NORTHEAST R-4

SR KODY MOORE ORAN

Kody Moore is First Team

-- Posted by sm0723 on Tue, Jun 11, 2013, at 10:07 AM
These All-state awards are mainly based on how deep a run a team makes. Just look at the all-state basketball. That's why this award doesn't really mean much IMO.

-- Posted by BIGELW on Tue, Jun 11, 2013, at 10:09 AM
A DH in high school?? Never heard of such a thing. Looks like just another way to get more kids the honor..I agree with BIGELW.

-- Posted by crackerjack on Tue, Jun 11, 2013, at 10:19 AM
players have to be nominated and neither of the last two years did coach Harmon nominate Tanner.

-- Posted by ThayerPops on Tue, Jun 11, 2013, at 11:04 AM
Tanner Murphy made all state so his coach must have nominated him this year. I know he did not last year though.

-- Posted by deadred on Tue, Jun 11, 2013, at 12:36 PM
No, BIGELW, the coaches awards are not based mainly on how deep a team makes it in the postseason. Actually, very few, if any kids that are nominated for the coaches team are left off. Whether that is right or wrong is a matter of opinion. The coaches that push for their kid to make the coaches team, usually have their kids on the team.

Bulletman-virtually every high school team employs a DH so I don't understand what your point is. It's a legitimate position.

-- Posted by jwhitlock on Tue, Jun 11, 2013, at 9:19 PM
Yes for the most part they are, there have been a ton of kids left off who had better #'s but the teams that make deep runs in the playoffs will get kids off their teams ahead of guys that have better #'s. I really don't keep up with baseball as much but that's the way it plays out in basketball and i would expect that's the way it is in baseball also.

-- Posted by BIGELW on Wed, Jun 12, 2013, at 7:44 AM
jwhitlock---There is NO way that DH should have an All-State position...Kody Moore and Tanner Murphy were NOT DH's...It's a way to get more kids the honor..

-- Posted by crackerjack on Wed, Jun 12, 2013, at 7:58 AM
Okay Big, so you "really don't keep up with baseball as much", yet you know how it goes? Enough said on that. As usual, your opinion is flawed.

Bullet-Is it or is it not a legitimate position that any coach could use when making out their line up? I agree that Kody Moore and Tanner Murphy were not DH's, but they were outstanding baseball players that played multiple positions. So I also agree with you, in that it does allow more players to receive the honor.

-- Posted by jwhitlock on Wed, Jun 12, 2013, at 9:46 AM
I'll give you the whole baseball thing because i don't keep up with it. But in basketball that's the way it is do some research on the #'s and you'll see. It's all about how deep a team goes just look at some of the Sikeston players in the past.

-- Posted by BIGELW on Wed, Jun 12, 2013, at 9:56 AM
I will admit that it does help out with how far a team advances because other coaches from other areas have the privilege of seeing the player play when normally they wouldn't have. It also comes down to whether the coach really pushed for the player or not because I personally know of several kids with much higher stats and better prospects that were never selected as All-State because their coach never attempted to push for them.

-- Posted by sm0723 on Wed, Jun 12, 2013, at 10:06 AM
BIG-this thread concerns baseball, not basketball. We're talking about the all-state baseball teams.

-- Posted by jwhitlock on Wed, Jun 12, 2013, at 10:52 AM
Ok well it's amazing Holcomb has 2 of the top 8 pitchers in the state and a top catcher and infielder. Do you really think that would have happened if they didn't make it to state?

-- Posted by BIGELW on Wed, Jun 12, 2013, at 11:20 AM
On the other hand, maybe that's why they made it to state. Just sayin'

-- Posted by Larry Doby on Wed, Jun 12, 2013, at 11:42 AM
whitlock---It is a legitimate position but you need to PLAY the position in my opinion..Neither of those were DH's...Murphy caught primarily when he didn't pitch. Moore played short primarily when he didn't pitch. I'm not knocking the 2 for making all state but don't water it down.

-- Posted by crackerjack on Wed, Jun 12, 2013, at 1:44 PM
Hold up Biggie, you, yourself admitted you didn't keep up with baseball. So how in the world would you know exactly what Holcomb has. smh

Murphy played some shortstop as well as pitch and catch. It's the world we live in. Everyone has to have a trophy from 2nd grade on up. Although there's no denying that both Moore and Murphy were not only all-state worthy, but also 2 of the top players in the entire state in their respective classes with Murphy being one of the best in the state, regardless of class.

-- Posted by jwhitlock on Wed, Jun 12, 2013, at 1:58 PM
Holcombs 2 pitchers were very worthy.. had great stats and at state one threw a 1 hitter and lost and the other won the 3rd place game. Glover was a top 5 hitter in the state.. Swafford benefitted from them making the final 4

-- Posted by ThayerPops on Wed, Jun 12, 2013, at 3:02 PM
You can think what you want just like i can think what i want but do you honestly think if Holcomb would have lost in districts they would have that many on all-state. Same goes for the other teams that were at state. Out of the 8 pitchers selected 5 of them were off the teams that were there. If it would have been 4 different teams that made it to state there would be 3 or 4 different players selected instead of the ones that were.

-- Posted by BIGELW on Wed, Jun 12, 2013, at 3:10 PM
I'm not bashing the players. I'm bashing the system and the way they are selected.

-- Posted by BIGELW on Wed, Jun 12, 2013, at 3:13 PM
The hypothetical, as it relates to Holcomb, doesn't matter because they did not lose in districts. The fact remains this. When it comes to the COACHES all-state team, most of the kids that are nominated, that have good statistics, will receive some kind of recognition, whether it be first team or honorable mention.(I'm not even attempting to comment on whether it's fair or not, besides, what is fair?) If you compare the coaches team to the media team you may very well see some distinct differences. Then again, you may not.

-- Posted by jwhitlock on Wed, Jun 12, 2013, at 4:37 PM

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