Posted by Cheesehead. on Mon, Dec 12, 2011, at 7:13 PM:
Any updates from the Clarkton Holiday Tournament?
Replies (272)
Sikeston 47 St Gen. 20 Halftime
-- Posted by Cheesehead. on Mon, Dec 12, 2011, at 7:44 PM
Sikeston 71 St Gen. 24 End 3rd
-- Posted by Cheesehead. on Mon, Dec 12, 2011, at 8:08 PM
Sikeston 92 St Gen. 29 Final
-- Posted by Cheesehead. on Mon, Dec 12, 2011, at 8:17 PM
Way to come back from Friday, Dogs.
-- Posted by rocketsbro on Mon, Dec 12, 2011, at 8:18 PM
impressive
-- Posted by Thot McGee on Mon, Dec 12, 2011, at 8:22 PM
Beating ste. Gen is not impressive... Removing them from your schedule would be impressive... District opponent or not, it's a waste of time... As I said earlier Sikeston had practice today & tues vs Perryville... Cupcake city, I bet class 1 SCC can beat those two class 4 gutter teams... I betcha neither of these two schools have never even won their districts before... practice makes perfect!!
-- Posted by BLACK MAMBA24 on Mon, Dec 12, 2011, at 8:32 PM
-- Posted by yah-yah on Mon, Dec 12, 2011, at 8:41 PM
Name one team in any sport in the entire nation with no cupcakes on their schedule.
-- Posted by yah-yah on Mon, Dec 12, 2011, at 8:43 PM
So I guess Sikeston playing St. Gen. would be like Charleston playing Kelly?
-- Posted by mandm96 on Mon, Dec 12, 2011, at 8:52 PM
Good analogy MM!
-- Posted by rocketsbro on Mon, Dec 12, 2011, at 9:09 PM
Mamba said he went to Arkansas State from 1993 to 1996 to play football, so he knows what it's like to be a whipping boy.
-- Posted by rocketsbro on Mon, Dec 12, 2011, at 9:15 PM
Yea I do but I got my education!!! Football was then, making a living off my education is NOW!!!
-- Posted by BLACK MAMBA24 on Mon, Dec 12, 2011, at 9:24 PM
Schedule talk is so overrated.
-- Posted by FarmBoy06 on Mon, Dec 12, 2011, at 9:25 PM
Not in this case Farm! LOL!
-- Posted by mandm96 on Mon, Dec 12, 2011, at 9:29 PM
NMCC 7th grade beats Jackson to remain undefeated.
-- Posted by BuckMajor on Mon, Dec 12, 2011, at 9:32 PM
Ste gen, Perryville, Bernie, valley view are cupcakes... Yea Kelly is too, I know our girls play them not sure about our boys... If they do I'm sure that's all we have, teams in superman classic won't be easy or the Perryville shootout... Heck we always play a tough opponent in that shootout: we've played vashon in 04, Memphis east in 05, Borgia in 06, red bud in 07, Webster groves in 08, I mean for class 3 team we dnt duck any class...
-- Posted by BLACK MAMBA24 on Mon, Dec 12, 2011, at 9:34 PM
Good for you Mamba! Now put it to use and write some coherent posts on here.
-- Posted by rocketsbro on Mon, Dec 12, 2011, at 9:35 PM
Charleston boys play Kelly. Why else would mandm bring that up?
-- Posted by yah-yah on Mon, Dec 12, 2011, at 9:39 PM
Yes, February 7th at Kelly. Of course, they do have to play Kelly at Kelly. That should even things up a bit...
-- Posted by rocketsbro on Mon, Dec 12, 2011, at 9:42 PM
You know playing cupcake city when your playing Ste.Gen & P'ville one night after another... Lmao I mean really who does that? Then know u guys sit back & say "Dogs got back on track" listen guys honestly, I know SCC could easily beat those 2... That's all I'm saying... It's practice...
-- Posted by BLACK MAMBA24 on Mon, Dec 12, 2011, at 10:51 PM
Oh, so playing Meadow Heights followed directly by the winner of Chaffee and Scott City isn't cupcake city? That's your 1st 2 rounds of your Christmas Tournament All I'm saying is...it's practice... Nice try, though.
-- Posted by yah-yah on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 8:09 AM
Buck, I was told by a reliable source that NMCC's 7th grade lost to PB earlier in the season and are therefore, not undefeated. I think that's their only loss. But, PB has a pretty salty group of 7th graders also.
-- Posted by yah-yah on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 8:10 AM
You are correct yah-yah, NMCC's 7th grade lost to Poplar Bluff early in the season. BuckMajor, both NMCC groups swept Jackson last night.
-- Posted by Sweet Chuck on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 8:21 AM
Yah yah your point is so weak... I'm speaking about regular season games, you know games that are scheduled, not a tournament!!!! To be honest, St.Dominic tournament is not loaded, please let's be real... Plus we are in the Superman Classic again so, again we seek competition & if we lose we lose but we will challenge our boys... That's why we play in Riverbend & Perryville Shootout & Superman Classic I mean this is not cupcake city... excuse me!!
-- Posted by BLACK MAMBA24 on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 11:19 AM
Black Mamba is a child.
-- Posted by GSP on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 11:22 AM
Bloviation FTW.
-- Posted by yah-yah on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 11:32 AM
Okay sorry. I only put that cause that's what one of the 7th graders told me, guess he didn't even know his own team.
-- Posted by BuckMajor on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 1:11 PM
It's all good. Our 8th graders are 8-0 so far. Both 7th and 8th play @ Charleston this evening.
-- Posted by yah-yah on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 1:13 PM
The Kennett varsity girls remain undefeated. Defeat Dyer County, Tenn., 61-37.
-- Posted by Dustin Ward on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 7:56 PM
The Kennett varsity boys lead Hayti 18-9 after one.
-- Posted by Dustin Ward on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 7:57 PM
Sikeston down 37-34
-- Posted by Mac N' Cheese on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 8:04 PM
Saxony is leading Chaffee 46-34 with three minutes to go in third. Chaffee on a little run after trailing by 20 at halftime.
-- Posted by Rachel Crader on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 8:08 PM
Jamison taking over the third quarter... 48-39 now... Jamison 16 points now!
-- Posted by Haterade on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 8:14 PM
Saxony leads Chaffee 48-39 after the third quarter.
-- Posted by Rachel Crader on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 8:15 PM
Sikeston up now 50-39 over Perryville!
-- Posted by Haterade on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 8:15 PM
Kennett leads Hayti 37-19 at halftime.
-- Posted by Dustin Ward on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 8:16 PM
Thanks for score, Hoops...Sikeston radio stream not working tonight.
-- Posted by Jason Porter on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 8:18 PM
Kilron Coleman with 10 Points
Terry Jamison with 16 Points
Keldon Warfield with 9 Points
Vashawn Ruffin with 11 Points
Sikeston now up 56-46
-- Posted by Haterade on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 8:19 PM
Sikeston still up in the 4th. 8 with 5:00 left in game!
-- Posted by Haterade on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 8:22 PM
Chaffee cut the Saxony lead to 56-53. 2:39 to go.
-- Posted by Rachel Crader on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 8:27 PM
Sikeston up 6...
2:27 minutes left in game!
-- Posted by Haterade on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 8:29 PM
Perryville within 4 now...
-- Posted by Haterade on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 8:29 PM
Chaffee up 60-59 with 17.7 to go. Alex Crowe is in flames he's so hot from the floor. Again, Chaffee trailed 41-21 at halftime.
-- Posted by Rachel Crader on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 8:34 PM
Chaffee wins 61-59. Really happy I stopped in after my nephew's Christmas program. Wow. Marty will have the story later.
-- Posted by Rachel Crader on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 8:38 PM
HAhaha I loved the flame thing! Sounded like a rap lyric. Side career as a rapper Rachel!?
-- Posted by BuckMajor on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 8:38 PM
48-35 Kennett after three.
-- Posted by Dustin Ward on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 8:40 PM
Haha. That's all I've got, BuckMajor.
-- Posted by Rachel Crader on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 8:44 PM
NMCC up by 3 over ND and NMCC at the line to shoot one!
-- Posted by mandm96 on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 8:56 PM
NMCC up 55-52 with :14 seconds left
-- Posted by mandm96 on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 8:57 PM
55-54 NMCC after a ND one and one. Now NMCC back to the line to shoot 2.
-- Posted by mandm96 on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 8:58 PM
Nelson missed the first made the 2nd
-- Posted by mandm96 on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 8:58 PM
Caruthersville 101 South Pem 36
And before you say we ran up the score, just so everyone knows, we didn't. Our bench played extremely well in the second half.
-- Posted by Cheesehead. on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 8:59 PM
3 seconds left and Nelson hauls down the rebound and is fouled to go to the line to shoot 2 with NMCC up 56-54
-- Posted by mandm96 on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 8:59 PM
How many did Monroe have cheese? A couple kids from school said he was a manchild when they seen him
-- Posted by Dustin Ruby on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 9:00 PM
Nelson makes the first. 57-54. Roberts takes a timeout
-- Posted by mandm96 on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 9:00 PM
NMCC defeats Notre Dame 57-54
-- Posted by mandm96 on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 9:01 PM
What?!?!?! Big win for the eagles!
-- Posted by yah-yah on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 9:02 PM
Only had 21 if I remember right. Starters started the 3rd but was pulled early. Cville is starting to make those easy buckets they were missing early on. Glad to see them shooting better and not fouling as much. Belton will get to play in the Xmas Tourney later this month. Cville will be getting deeper
-- Posted by Cheesehead. on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 9:03 PM
OH. MY. GOSH.!.
-- Posted by BuckMajor on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 9:03 PM
Nice win NMCC..Grats Buckmajor.. You guys deserved it
-- Posted by Cheesehead. on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 9:03 PM
Bernie 72 Woodland 35
-- Posted by BBfanatic on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 9:08 PM
Thanks man, gotta be honest, I was kinda expecting not to get the W tonight after hearing how good ND guards were against sikeston. But yeah great win guys, keep it up! Kinda like cville, will be better after Xmas. Maybe there finally starting to hit their stride!
-- Posted by BuckMajor on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 9:10 PM
WOW... DOWN goes ND, DOWN goes ND! LOL!!!
Looks like the semo conference champ might be interesting this year!
Don't sleep on any team!!! ON any night!!!
-- Posted by Mac N' Cheese on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 9:11 PM
Well it was against South Pem.. I see where we are shooting better though. We have cut down all those foolish fouls to. When Belton gets to play, we will have a scorer and a defender.. He is a great player. Cville will get to have a week or so of straight practice to work on the small things. I see good things for this team
-- Posted by Cheesehead. on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 9:14 PM
Anyone got a final on Sikeston/Perryville?
-- Posted by Fatboy1972 on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 9:16 PM
70-61 Sikeston. Perryville is not a pushover contrary to the belief of some.
-- Posted by sideline starter on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 9:19 PM
70-61 sikeston fatboy
-- Posted by BuckMajor on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 9:19 PM
Thanks sideline starter and BuckMajor. Kinda surprised score was so close but not as surprised as NMCC beating ND. Especialy after watching both teams last week.
-- Posted by Fatboy1972 on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 9:23 PM
Charleston beat Meridian 83-75
-- Posted by nimbus on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 9:24 PM
kennett beat hayti69-54.
-- Posted by mule1993 on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 9:32 PM
Kennett played, well, lets say sloppy. Hayti has a pretty good half court trap, and they forced several turnovers with the full court pressure at the end of the game. Consistency will be a problem all year for kennett. Not that Hayti is not a good team, and they are and very well coached but their depth is just not there. A good team would have took kennett to whipping shed tonight.
-- Posted by mule1993 on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 9:39 PM
Portageville defeats Holcomb 59-52
-- Posted by Dustin Ward on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 9:44 PM
Scott Central over Advance 91 - 76
-- Posted by garymc on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 9:45 PM
advance is going to suprise some teams in the xmas tourny,good win 2nite braves
-- Posted by kmasters on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 9:50 PM
Oran over East Prarie by around 20. Sorry, don't have a final yet.
-- Posted by Uncle Charlie on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 9:50 PM
someone needs to get Alex crowe some icy hot back patches bc I'm sure it's sore from carrying his team tonight.. haven't seen someone single handedly take over a game like that in a long time. 18 second half points which is how many saxony had total. great game Alex and other players
-- Posted by Thot McGee on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 11:44 PM
Tucker scored 40 against Meridian tonight!
-- Posted by bluejaypride on Wed, Dec 14, 2011, at 12:34 AM
bluegold.. I would like to nominate you for poster of the year.. any question that pops up in your head you ask.. I'm waiting for the question.. scott city plays eagle ridge tonight and it's my grand parents 50th wedding anniversary.. which do I attend.. but I guess I'll predict that Scott city wins by 7
-- Posted by Thot McGee on Wed, Dec 14, 2011, at 11:41 AM
bluegold.. I would like to nominate you for poster of the year.. any question that pops up in your head you ask.. I'm waiting for the question.. scott city plays eagle ridge tonight and it's my grand parents 50th wedding anniversary.. which do I attend.. but I guess I'll predict that Scott city wins by 7
-- Posted by Thot McGee on Wed, Dec 14, 2011, at 11:42 AM
The Sothland boys lead Delta C-7 32-30 at halftime.
-- Posted by Dustin Ward on Wed, Dec 14, 2011, at 5:03 PM
Delta C-7 defeats Southland 64-62.
-- Posted by Dustin Ward on Wed, Dec 14, 2011, at 6:00 PM
North Pemiscot leads Senath-Hornersville 21-20 at halftime in a semifinal match at the Campbell Christmas Tournament.
-- Posted by Dustin Ward on Wed, Dec 14, 2011, at 6:26 PM
North Pemiscot defeats Senath-Hornersville 54-37.
-- Posted by Dustin Ward on Wed, Dec 14, 2011, at 7:26 PM
Naylor leads Armorel, Ark., 14-9 after one quarter in the second semifinal.
-- Posted by Dustin Ward on Wed, Dec 14, 2011, at 7:36 PM
Naylor leads Armorel 27-17 at halftime.
-- Posted by Dustin Ward on Wed, Dec 14, 2011, at 7:49 PM
Armorel leads Naylor 38-37 after three.
-- Posted by Dustin Ward on Wed, Dec 14, 2011, at 8:09 PM
49-45 Armorel. 4:13 remaining.
-- Posted by Dustin Ward on Wed, Dec 14, 2011, at 8:16 PM
Armorel defeats Naylor 64-53.
-- Posted by Dustin Ward on Wed, Dec 14, 2011, at 8:28 PM
Wow.. Dom does not practice and he is averaging 31 points a game!! If he would just take a couple of practice shots every now and then, he could average 45 a game.
-- Posted by igobybob on Wed, Dec 14, 2011, at 8:39 PM
most teams wish they had a player like dom............. enough said go to next subject
-- Posted by kmasters on Wed, Dec 14, 2011, at 9:24 PM
he don't practice?
-- Posted by Thot McGee on Wed, Dec 14, 2011, at 10:15 PM
Portageville is undefeated. Why aren't there more stories about their games ANYWHERE!?!
-- Posted by BSG99 on Thu, Dec 15, 2011, at 4:48 PM
Well you know what comes next BSG99..Who have they played..lol U cant be undefeated unless you havent played a strong team let the people say..LOL Congrats Portageville Bulldogs
-- Posted by stlfan38 on Thu, Dec 15, 2011, at 5:03 PM
Apparently Holcomb is state-ranked and they beat them. I've only seen them play at Kelly and I left at half-time because it was such a blow-out. But they have beat Hayti and Holcomb so far. Kennett will be their next "test".
-- Posted by BSG99 on Thu, Dec 15, 2011, at 5:26 PM
Kennett is a very good team.
-- Posted by Cheesehead. on Thu, Dec 15, 2011, at 5:31 PM
NMCC JV lead Doniphans 37 to 23 at half. 24 combined fouls in this game at half time, poor officiating crew. I don't think they wanna run, fouls are good way for them to get a break.
-- Posted by BuckMajor on Thu, Dec 15, 2011, at 6:41 PM
NMCC JV defeats Doniphans JV 71 to 51. Finished with 41 total fouls. Hour and a half game. About a foul every 40 something seconds.
-- Posted by BuckMajor on Thu, Dec 15, 2011, at 7:23 PM
Doniphans leads 25 to 8 after the first
-- Posted by BuckMajor on Thu, Dec 15, 2011, at 7:59 PM
doniphan started fast. they can score.
-- Posted by GSP on Thu, Dec 15, 2011, at 8:09 PM
Yes they did, they make everything the throw up. 44 to 27 Doniphan at halftime.
-- Posted by BuckMajor on Thu, Dec 15, 2011, at 8:16 PM
67-44 don headed into the 4th.
-- Posted by BuckMajor on Thu, Dec 15, 2011, at 8:43 PM
Final Doniphan wins 81 -65
-- Posted by BuckMajor on Thu, Dec 15, 2011, at 9:03 PM
NMCC 7th grade beat Charleston tonight to go undefeated for the first time since Kony and Dontre did. I talked to both the coach and the middle school principle, the loss against PB was in a tournament and those games did not count in the record. Congrats guys!
-- Posted by BuckMajor on Thu, Dec 15, 2011, at 9:33 PM
sounds like the Christmas tourney is going to be pretty good. Cant wait to see the Dons play.
-- Posted by mule1993 on Thu, Dec 15, 2011, at 9:49 PM
The Kennett varsity girls remain unbeaten. Defeat Senath-Hornersville 62-34.
-- Posted by Dustin Ward on Thu, Dec 15, 2011, at 10:06 PM
Oran J.V. defeated Puxico by I want to say 9 tonight in the championship game of the Advance J.V. Tournament. They move to 6-0 on the year. The future is looking bright in the next couple of years for the Eagles.
-- Posted by Uncle Charlie on Thu, Dec 15, 2011, at 10:14 PM
Tournaments don't count? SWEET! Sikeston is still undefeated and the home court streak is still intact! Woooooooooo!!!!
-- Posted by semohoops on Thu, Dec 15, 2011, at 10:39 PM
Knew this jerk ^ would have something to say. I don't know the situation of this tournament, just telling you what the principle told me. I would be more than happy to give you his number, it is Mr. Drummond, he also refs games I'm sure you've seen him, and you can ask him. My post really didn't even require a response.
-- Posted by BuckMajor on Thu, Dec 15, 2011, at 10:54 PM
Did Holcomb/Hayti play tonight? Anybody have updates on that?
-- Posted by froboy on Thu, Dec 15, 2011, at 11:09 PM
What did I say Buck? I just was thrilled that tournaments don't count. No comment about NMCC's 7th grade or their achievement. Just commented on Sikeston. Why does that upset you?
-- Posted by semohoops on Thu, Dec 15, 2011, at 11:15 PM
Holcomb won 43 to 36.
-- Posted by BuckMajor on Thu, Dec 15, 2011, at 11:15 PM
Oh Buck, relax. I'm just jerking your chain. You dish it out all the time, so you gotta be able to take some back at you. Don't get your panties in a wad. You do humor me though.
-- Posted by semohoops on Thu, Dec 15, 2011, at 11:30 PM
hoops....(regarding Buck) "It's too easy!" *said as a chant over and over* Hahahahahahaha!!!!!!
-- Posted by Rocket689 on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 8:08 AM
Also, hoops.....looks like Sikeston will have to change the banners and t-shirts and anything associated with the state title last year. Looks as if we were only 20-0....according to Buck! You know...we had 3 tourney wins in the St.Dom tournament and 7 tourney wins in the state tournament (3 district, 1 sect, 1 qtr, and 2 at the Final Four). Oh well, 30-0 sounded much better.....but alas...it is no longer! All because one NM fan had to go checking on "things!"
-- Posted by Rocket689 on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 8:13 AM
Oops! Actually, it's even worse....I forgot about the conference tourney! No longer 20-0! It is now 17-0! Man, 30-0 sounds MUCH better!
-- Posted by Rocket689 on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 8:14 AM
BuckMajor--I understand you are proud of NMCC's JH program and from the way you talk, you should be. But.............undefeated is undefeated. A loss in a tourn. would NOT be finishing the year "undefeated" in anyone's book. Undefeated regular season games=yes. Undefeated for THE season=no. Congrats to NMCC though, future looks promising.
-- Posted by KevinDuBrow on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 8:18 AM
Yeah, that doesn't quite have the same kind of ring to it does it Rocket? I'm going back trying to figure out how many undefeated junior high teams we have had over the years after disregarding tournament games.
-- Posted by semohoops on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 9:49 AM
^^^^^Hahahahaha!!!!
-- Posted by Rocket689 on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 10:20 AM
Hahaha wow, I'll just stick to updating scores from now on lol.
-- Posted by BuckMajor on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 11:06 AM
That is the best post you've ever made BuckMajor.
-- Posted by semohoops on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 11:40 AM
That's the best compliment iv ever gotten from you semohoops :)
-- Posted by BuckMajor on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 1:28 PM
Can't we all just get along????? LOL
-- Posted by Rocket689 on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 1:36 PM
Sure! As the Beatles said, I get by with help from my semoball friends :)
-- Posted by BuckMajor on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 1:39 PM
It would really be great if this thread would return to reporting basketball scores instead of ridiculous nonsense.
-- Posted by Dustin Ward on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 1:39 PM
I like the ridiculous nonsense. It's far more entertaining than the basketball scores.
-- Posted by rocketsbro on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 1:52 PM
Williams high 82- tipton 65
that better dusty
-- Posted by Thot McGee on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 1:56 PM
To sportsnerd,
BORING!!!!
That is all.
-- Posted by rocketsbro on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 2:00 PM
Morehead st 69 ball st 69. Neither one could get off a shot late!
-- Posted by Haterade on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 2:34 PM
Are there any games going to return the thread to normal?
-- Posted by mandm96 on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 2:40 PM
I heard there's a good game tonight in Cape.
-- Posted by rocketsbro on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 2:44 PM
It's all in good fun folks. My day would go by a lot slower without my daily entertainment of semoball.
-- Posted by semohoops on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 3:44 PM
Agreed, hoops!
-- Posted by Rocket689 on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 3:45 PM
Here ye here ye! Agreed! All just good fun, lightens the mood.
-- Posted by BuckMajor on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 4:25 PM
Will anybody be giving updates from the Clarkton Tournament tonight?
-- Posted by dont worry on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 4:52 PM
Sikeston JV over ND JV 54-52.
-- Posted by rocketsbro on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 7:23 PM
Kennett 16 Portageville 11 End of 1
-- Posted by Cheesehead. on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 7:51 PM
Kennett 30 Portageville 26 Halftime
-- Posted by Cheesehead. on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 8:05 PM
Sikeston 19 ND 27 Halftime
-- Posted by Cheesehead. on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 8:08 PM
To many fouls and to many missed shots for Sikeston in the first half.
-- Posted by mandm96 on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 8:10 PM
That stinks!
-- Posted by TFA on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 8:16 PM
WAY to many 3's being missed!!
-- Posted by mandm96 on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 8:29 PM
Kennett 42 Portageville 46 End of 3
-- Posted by Cheesehead. on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 8:29 PM
Sikeston 31 ND 44 End of 3
-- Posted by Cheesehead. on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 8:32 PM
44-31 Blue Dogs lead the Red Dogs start of 4th quarter.
-- Posted by GreatFun on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 8:33 PM
Cheesehead beat me to it!
-- Posted by GreatFun on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 8:33 PM
The #12 seed in the SE Missourian Xmas tournament Oran beats the #10 seed Delta 58-48 at Delta. A bad officiating job. Like I said the seeds we're inaccurate.
-- Posted by Uncle Charlie on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 8:37 PM
Crap! If we lose I am not getting on here. I don't even want to hear the gloating!!
-- Posted by TFA on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 8:40 PM
Gideon beat Clarkton for 3rd place at Clarkton Holiday Tournament.. Final was 98-85
Risco leads Gosnell 21-16 after 1 in Championship.
-- Posted by sm0723 on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 8:41 PM
Any more updates on Sikeston-ND?
-- Posted by FarmBoy06 on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 8:43 PM
Bernie 72 Bell City 38
-- Posted by BBfanatic on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 8:43 PM
58-47 ND with just a few minutes left in the game.
-- Posted by mandm96 on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 8:47 PM
1:37 to play, same score 58-47 ND
-- Posted by mandm96 on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 8:48 PM
58-47 ND leads Sikeston with 1:30 to play
-- Posted by GreatFun on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 8:48 PM
This forum is about to turn into complete chaos. I can't wait!
-- Posted by Dr. Basketball on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 8:49 PM
Yeah it is! LOL!
-- Posted by mandm96 on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 8:51 PM
TAKE THAT MANDM96!!!! BAM!!!! NOTRE DAME RULLLLLLLEZZZZ!!!!!
Buuuut seriously...lol.
-- Posted by FarmBoy06 on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 8:52 PM
Kennett 57 Portageville 70 Final
-- Posted by Cheesehead. on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 8:52 PM
Everyone knows that no one wins AT Notre Dame. Too much booster money lining the pockets of the refs
-- Posted by bluejay_fan_natic20 on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 8:53 PM
Wow, Portageville put it to Kennett. Nice victory for them.
-- Posted by GreatFun on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 8:53 PM
Sikeston 54 ND 62 Final
-- Posted by Cheesehead. on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 8:54 PM
ROFL!! I didn't got to the game, so no comments here! LOL!
-- Posted by mandm96 on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 8:54 PM
Is the officiating one sided in the ND game? How many fouls called on each team? A post above seems to imply the refs are home cooking Sikeston. I'm just asking.
-- Posted by GreatFun on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 8:55 PM
47-29 halftime Risco over Gosnell..
-- Posted by sm0723 on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 8:56 PM
47-29 halftime Risco over Gosnell..
-- Posted by sm0723 on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 8:56 PM
bluejay_fan_fatic/luvnblind, you've said some ignorant stuff in your day...but that's probably true. The year I was a senior, they raised tuition rates...you think it's a coincidence that they won state the very next year? Money well spent.
-- Posted by FarmBoy06 on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 8:56 PM
Ah, he just whines and complains and pees all over himself any time there's an ND discussion on the forum.
-- Posted by FarmBoy06 on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 8:57 PM
Down goes Sikeston...AGAIN...
-- Posted by BLACK MAMBA24 on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 8:58 PM
The Meystedt (did I spell his name correctly?)kid for ND must be a great player. I think radio said he poured in 25 tonight, and that was before game was over.
-- Posted by GreatFun on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 9:00 PM
Sikeston played right into ND's hands. They settled on the outside and forces up shots. Very little looking to the inside. ND would do what they do best, capitalize on the fastbreaks and score a bunch of points off turnovers. Someone on Sikeston has to start getting physical in the paint offensively. The past two games, they've played against teams with more size and decent skill and just looked flat. Giving credit to ND, Meystedt played out of his mind tonight and did everything right. The kid has lots of game. Props to them. If this team doesn't work on their inside game, it won't matter how good their shooters are because they will be figured out quick.
-- Posted by sideline starter on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 9:00 PM
I think he added two more GreatFun with a couple of late FT's which gave him 27. I think......
-- Posted by mandm96 on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 9:02 PM
It really didn't matter either how good their outside shooters were tonight because they couldn't get anything to fall!
-- Posted by mandm96 on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 9:04 PM
Looking forward to stats on this game. Who won the rebound war? Three point attempts/makes? Fouls?
Which time had more size on the floor?
-- Posted by GreatFun on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 9:04 PM
And turnovers, who forced more turnovers in the Dog war?
-- Posted by GreatFun on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 9:06 PM
@Farmboy: I will not respond to your personal attacks but what I will say is that YES I do resent the fact that Notre Dame is allowed to play by a different set of rules than the public schools. They are allowed to recruit from all over the region and they do so routinely. I even had a member of the Notre Dame faculty CONFIRM that there is indeed a tuition slush fund IF you are a good athlete. I have watched or listened to many SCC/Charleston/Sikeston vs. Notre Dame games and they are certainly called differently if the games are played in Cape. Notre Dame fans are arrogant, rude and downright prejudiced.
-- Posted by bluejay_fan_natic20 on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 9:16 PM
Risco up 76-51 after 3..
-- Posted by sm0723 on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 9:22 PM
The #12 seed in the SE Missourian Xmas tournament Oran beats the #10 seed Delta 58-48 at Delta. A bad officiating job. Like I said the seeds we're inaccurate.
-- Posted by Uncle Charlie on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 9:32 PM
Lol, people blaming refs for Notre Dame winning. Typical. HIGH SCHOOL REFS SUCK. We got the bad end of some questionable calls as did they. The refs were consistent in what they called a foul. I have a theory, maybe, just maybe, Notre Dame played better tonight. Now isn't that a thought
-- Posted by V,B on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 9:34 PM
Lol at the predjudice comment. What exactly are we predjudice against. Bet I guess your answer, and if it is what I'm going thinking your going to say, it's laughable and your a bigot.
-- Posted by V,B on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 9:36 PM
Lol at the predjudice comment. What exactly are we predjudice against. Bet I guess your answer, and if it is what I'm going thinking your going to say, it's laughable and your a bigot.
-- Posted by V,B on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 9:36 PM
Sikeston was out played and out coached.
-- Posted by Fatboy1972 on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 9:37 PM
Risco defeats Gosnell 92-57 to win the Clarkton Holiday Tournament.. Risco had turbo clock going in all 3 games and broke the tournament average scoring record by averaging 92.3 points a game for the tournament.
-- Posted by sm0723 on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 9:37 PM
I was at this game, it was bad calls both ways...Notre Dame played a sound game...tough night for Ruffin he was hounded by some great defense & Jamison played good but he has to play GREAT for Sikeston to win..JT Jones in my opinion should be Dogs number one option, the young man can't be stopped, he a rebound machine & plays physical... He needs more touches... 4guards & Jones in the post will be deadly...
-- Posted by BLACK MAMBA24 on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 9:39 PM
Big win for Risco.. Looks like they are a big threat for SCC this year
-- Posted by Cheesehead. on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 9:40 PM
Ruffin seemed of. ND won't be able to play that far off him next time. Jones is a stud and will be an all-district player in the future. Anybody know what happened to Jamison?
-- Posted by V,B on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 9:41 PM
Ruffin seemed off*
-- Posted by V,B on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 9:42 PM
nice wins tonight for notre dame and portageville. not shocked at all by those. im somewhat surprised by the margin of victory in the risco game. congrats risco
-- Posted by GSP on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 9:43 PM
Wow, New Madrid even beat Notre Dame haha!
-- Posted by BuckMajor on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 9:43 PM
Risco was too fast for Gosnell and shot the ball really well .. Gosnell's press was beaten very easily and they just sat in a zone and Risco hit 11 3's I believe..
-- Posted by sm0723 on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 9:46 PM
@V,B...the way the radio guy talked was that Jamison took a shot either to the face or the head.
-- Posted by mandm96 on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 9:53 PM
Looks like class 4 district #1 could be interesting..Sikeston may have to through Perryville and notre dame or vice versa...sounds like the 3 pointers that fell for sikeston against perryville (12 of them if I counted correctly) did not fall against notre dame..did notre dame play man or zone against sikeston?
-- Posted by deckerd31 on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 9:54 PM
Jeremy Fowler made 12 3s tonight for risco I believe. He was lights out all night.
-- Posted by dont worry on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 10:12 PM
yeah uncle C the seeds are off.. Scott city is better than advance like I said as well.. Oran should be 11 Chaffee 10 and oak ridge 9
-- Posted by Thot McGee on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 10:23 PM
Scott City is the 5th or 6th best team in the Xmas tourney
-- Posted by Thot McGee on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 10:26 PM
Jeremy fowler had 30 points including 8-9 3's according to the book.. He made 2 more but were called off due to illegal screens..
-- Posted by sm0723 on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 10:33 PM
Decker that is a dumb question. ND plays a match up zone and will always play a match up.
-- Posted by Kobeyashi on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 10:42 PM
Chaffee doesn't have a scori g threat on their team besides Crowe.. therefore I don't see a consolation run like last season. Tenkhoff or someone has to become an outside scoring threat. we don't don't a post player that you can have post and throw it in to them.. they need the guards to penetrate and drawl their defender and pass for a lay in or get offensive boards and put back.. that's our post scoring thus far..
-- Posted by Thot McGee on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 10:49 PM
Bluejayfanatico20, I see you haven't gained any maturity in the last couple years or so. Funny, most people eventually grow up. If all you can do is lie, you might be better off saving that energy. I'll say a prayer for you.
-- Posted by NDalum86 on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 11:08 PM
As much as I love the age-old, redundant Notre Dame recruiting/not recruiting that always seems to coincide with a life is fair/not fair argument, I think we've had enough of it for now.
No one who really believes either side to be true is going to change his or her mind. It's just not going to happen and we've all heard it before. Let's please move on.
-- Posted by Rachel Crader on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 11:20 PM
If #3 Portageville beat #1 Kennett tonight 70-57 and #2 Doniphan (6-0) beat NMCC 81-65 last night, the Bloomfield Tournament is going to be very interesting this year! Dons play Bloomfield Monday evening (Dec 19) at home so it is possible for the Dons to enter the Bloomfield Christmas Tournament 7-0.
-- Posted by Wesman100 on Fri, Dec 16, 2011, at 11:28 PM
Listen.... shhhh ..... Listen.... I can hear the crickets all the way in sikeston hahahahaha!
-- Posted by SoaringEagle on Sat, Dec 17, 2011, at 12:10 AM
GSP
Risco perhaps is emerging as the favorite to represent southeast Missouri at the Class 1 final four.
-- Posted by Dustin Ward on Sat, Dec 17, 2011, at 2:35 AM
NDalum86: I am immature because I see the situation for what it is? There is no way on a neutral court that Notre Dame beats Sikeston. Notre Dame couldn't even get past New Madrid County Central the other night. Perhaps my "booster money lining the pockets of the refs" was a bit over the top, but you cannot sit there and tell me that Notre Dame has not benefited from home cooking on their home court over the years. As far as fans go, I have sat in the stands and heard all the ugliness directed at players on the opposing teams----coming from ADULT Notre Dame alumni. Don't worry about saying a prayer for me, say one for them.
@Rachel Why is it so hard for the newspaper and others to acknowledge that Notre Dame IS allowed to play by a different set of rules that public schools? When Coach Heeb was at Bell City and moved to SCC, he was crucified with recruiting allegations that probably never really happened.The Missourian was all over THAT story.
It doesn't really break my heart that Notre Dame crushed our biggest rival, one just has to wonder exactly how it happened. I have yet to see a box score with the fouls and/or turnovers listed. If anything, it makes the Notre Dame/Charleston match up on Tuesday night all the more intriguing. I had debated on going, but NOW I wouldn't miss that game for anything. I am sure Notre Dame believes that they already have this game in their back pocket.
-- Posted by bluejay_fan_natic20 on Sat, Dec 17, 2011, at 5:15 AM
Notre Dame's upset of Sikeston just made the SE Missourian Christmas tournament a lot more interesting. I am sure Father David is already clearing a space for the SE Missouri Christmas tournament trophy as we speak.
-- Posted by bluejay_fan_natic20 on Sat, Dec 17, 2011, at 5:20 AM
Bfn20, you see the situation through miseducated eyes and you just illustrated my point perfectly. It is Brother David, not Father. If you do come to the game then I welcome you and challenge you to you to talk to Brother about your concerns. I'm sure he will be glad to correctly inform you about anything you might want to ask him.
-- Posted by NDalum86 on Sat, Dec 17, 2011, at 6:01 AM
Sideline let me apologize up front but the rest of the red puppy lover deserve everything they get on this one. SNOT BUBBLE!
-- Posted by mule1993 on Sat, Dec 17, 2011, at 7:33 AM
@Sportsnerd called him dusty. ROFL
-- Posted by Larry Doby on Sat, Dec 17, 2011, at 9:01 AM
Too many people on here whine about the refs.Talk about the game and leave the ref comments out of it because all it does is start arguments.Refs are not gonna cost you a game.
-- Posted by ukbloo on Sat, Dec 17, 2011, at 10:35 AM
blue gold.. I predicted Scott city would win but you put they controlle it from start to finish.. just checked out the box score.. it was tied 32-32 at half
-- Posted by Thot McGee on Sat, Dec 17, 2011, at 10:41 AM
6reat win for notre dame. our area is blessed with great basketball programs and nd is one of them. these two will meet again i think.
mystery of the universe-why does it seem like crader picks and chooses what and who to admonish? ive noticed a pattern over the past couple of years.
nice win scott city. advance will need to guard better to have a chance to pull off an upset at christmas. they gave up 79 to bell city the other night.
the upcomong bloomfield christmas tournament is shaping up to be one of the most exciting in memory. i count up to 5 or 6 teams that could be in the finals.
-- Posted by GSP on Sat, Dec 17, 2011, at 11:30 AM
GSP...I think you may be right about the Bloomfield Christmas Tournament. On a given night..any of the top 4-5 teams are capable of winning it all. I can't wait for it to begin.
-- Posted by Wesman100 on Sat, Dec 17, 2011, at 11:55 AM
Link to Sikeston Standard-Democrat story of Red Dogs vs. Blue Dogs
-- Posted by gianthook on Sat, Dec 17, 2011, at 12:30 PM
New Madrid beat Notre Dame at Notre Dame, so they beat them in the same environment as the game last night. So that's not a relevant argument.
-- Posted by BuckMajor on Sat, Dec 17, 2011, at 12:31 PM
Maybe ND won because Sikeston isn't that good. Is it just me or are there nothing, but excuses for when Sikeston loses. Maybe ND actually played better than Sikeston(what a thought).
-- Posted by Backyard ball on Sat, Dec 17, 2011, at 1:19 PM
I know my hoops lol
-- Posted by Thot McGee on Sat, Dec 17, 2011, at 1:24 PM
Sikeston just has to work on the inside game both on offense and defense. They have very good guards but they do not utilize their forwards nearly as well as they should. Also, the offense needs some more practice. They will be fine. The break will give them a chance to put the needed work in and get this team up to snuff. Anyone who thinks "Sikeston isn't that good" just wants to bash them while they have an opportunity to. Losses happen to teams. ND played better last night because Sikeston let them dictate the tempo and play their type of game, as I stated last night. The team will be fine though.
-- Posted by sideline starter on Sat, Dec 17, 2011, at 1:34 PM
If Sikeston is going to play better they have to get the ball inside for layups instead of settling for 3's which they don't shoot that well. JT is a good player. There is no reason they shouldn't get the ball to him more
-- Posted by Backyard ball on Sat, Dec 17, 2011, at 1:43 PM
It was a tough game.ND played Sikeston couldnt hit.I still question this zone defense.Every coach knows that H is not changing his zone.He needs to stop living on last years win and change the defense.New Madrid played man im sure C town will play man.Come on H this zone is killing you. Times change u have to change your style to get with modern times.Maybe in the past u played zone to protect slow players from getting beat off the dribble.You dont have that problem GET OUT THE ZONE.I dont care anymore who says what U look at ND last night they got up 6 an stalled.S-town looked crazy running from side to side wearing your shooters legs out.GET with it.U are not 10 deep this year JONES an JAMISON are playing seemingly the best right now.RUFFIN seems to be in a slump.IM sorry but besides JONES the post men cant even catch the ball.Terrible hands.So S town is goin to be in a dog fight each and every night unless there are some adjustments made in this 1980's zone defense.COME ON MAN.The players got to develop a winning attitude.Yesterday is done u work hard an get better.I know some idiot will be on here talkin bout the coaching staff know what they are doing.I say its more to coaching than saying forget what people say im staying with this.At least try U might be surprised in the outcome.
-- Posted by stlfan38 on Sat, Dec 17, 2011, at 1:43 PM
Good point BuckMajor. Facts are a pesky thing sometimes.
-- Posted by FarmBoy06 on Sat, Dec 17, 2011, at 1:59 PM
My posts keep vanishing. Must have hit a nerve.
-- Posted by bluejay_fan_natic20 on Sat, Dec 17, 2011, at 2:28 PM
That's exactly what NMCC did Tuesday. They were playing zone for the first three quarters, and we're losing by 14 going into the fourth. They switched to man for the fourth quarter, because the zone was failing. Needless to say our guards took over, got steals, and one of our guards out scored their entire team in the 4th, and we won the game. Sometimes adjustments have to be made.
-- Posted by BuckMajor on Sat, Dec 17, 2011, at 3:15 PM
-- Posted by deckerd31 on Sat, Dec 17, 2011, at 3:20 PM
Thanks Buck.The coaching staff is not giving their players a chance.U can see the frustration on the players face of being led around like clowns on a bike.The wheels on the bus go round and round.
-- Posted by stlfan38 on Sat, Dec 17, 2011, at 3:31 PM
Perryville 62, Farmington 47...perryville trailed 13 to 11 after the 1st quarter and the scored 25 in the 2nd to take contol of the the game
-- Posted by deckerd31 on Sat, Dec 17, 2011, at 3:50 PM
@stlfan38 You're spot on! Just hope they take notice and work on it or it will be a short season for SHS.
-- Posted by NTheDogHouse on Sat, Dec 17, 2011, at 3:55 PM
Is any body at the Lady Royals Classic?
-- Posted by mule1993 on Sat, Dec 17, 2011, at 3:56 PM
Im laughing my rear end off as i read this criticism of the coaches of sikeston. You get on here and second guess as if you have all the answers. they lose two games and you 'savants' start acting like the roof of the fieldhouse is collapsing. Its laughable, even hilarious. i mean come on, after reading stl38s synopsis im wondering how come he has not found a cure for cancer. lol
-- Posted by GSP on Sat, Dec 17, 2011, at 7:58 PM
GSP its obvious u r either the coach, his wife, his son, father n law, daddy, are something..If u cant take the blinders off and see the two games they loss came with the stall tactic after being up a few points then u are just plain ignorant.Check this smartie read ND coachs comment.He said what we cant run with Sikeston so we had to slow the pace down and have them play our game.Check this he did just that. The pace slowed down the ball went from corner to corner and our guys did what stayed in the freakin zone an looked like kids at the sports complex playing in the field runninh all over the place accomplishing NOTHING.If he wants to embarrass himself because he so arrogant in thinkin zone wins,Think again.If the SHS fans are yellin get out the zone.1000 people cant be wrong. REALLY come.Id rather be smart and try a change than look DUMB sticking to the same routine.SHS is to predictable when it comes to other opponents making a game plan against them.They know what SHS will play.They need to give the guys a chance at winning.SHS is not 10 deep no way no how.If u have a kid like Jamison playing all but 1 minute of a game an he is vomiting from exhaustion your not 10 deep if u Jones plays all but 3 minutes u are not 10 deep.I never claimed to have a cure for cancer but I have a cure for the stall game. PLAY MAN TO MAN.I was coached by the best no i wasnt the high scorer but I played my role rebounds and defense my put backs got me jus as many points as any other.I had to work but thats what u do.My coach always put us in a postion to win by making the neccesary adjustments. TEN 4 OVER AND OUT.
-- Posted by stlfan38 on Sat, Dec 17, 2011, at 8:40 PM
GSP not a criticism here this is actual and factual
-- Posted by stlfan38 on Sat, Dec 17, 2011, at 8:42 PM
GSP is a Portageville fan but knows what he's talking about and the coaches are the ones with the jobs of coaching for a reason. I trust them.
-- Posted by sideline starter on Sat, Dec 17, 2011, at 9:11 PM
i guess cancer wont get cured anytime soon after all. haha. stlfan if you pay attention to all or any of my posts you can easily see that im not even a sikeston fan so maybe you need to remove the blinders. my daddy alway said there was two kinds of dumb.
-- Posted by GSP on Sat, Dec 17, 2011, at 10:21 PM
Im sure sideline but can we reason for a second.U tell me why we are stuck in zone.Mabe you can help me understand.Thats all im saying.Its doesnt say that coaches are always right.If they were then we wouldnt have them getting fired all across the board.Sometimes differant players need a differant aspect.Im not suckin on a lemon.I will take the SHS team of 2000 I believe.The same losing team a year before FRED J came.FRED came with a differant approach these guys went to state.The year may be wrong just making a point.The prior coach did the same thing year in year out and it just wasnt working am I right.RIGHT. Are u take Mcferren in New Madrid same losing team before he came and what he change the plan to defense first and they won state.Everybosy gets all mad when u make a point and ask a question.Thats all im saying.So if sideline r GSP can help me then please do instead of getting an attitude with me.I say if u had 10 like last year where everybody came in fresh and could hold a entire game of non stop press then sure.We dont have that this year thats all im saying.C town an ND blew right thru the press because by the time u get to the 3rd quarter SHS is tired and not as pure as the first 21 quarters.Just my observation.
-- Posted by stlfan38 on Sat, Dec 17, 2011, at 10:29 PM
I dont follow u like that GSP dont really care where you from.I have mine you have yours.Yes you are the second kind of dumb.
-- Posted by stlfan38 on Sat, Dec 17, 2011, at 10:31 PM
GSP
How long have you been a Portageville Bulldog fan?
-- Posted by Dustin Ward on Sat, Dec 17, 2011, at 10:44 PM
Do you think the Bulldogs have a chance to win the state title this season?
Is Thayer really the favorite in Class 2. I still like the winner of the Class 2 district at Hayti to return to state.
-- Posted by Dustin Ward on Sat, Dec 17, 2011, at 10:46 PM
Sikeston fans.......stay positive. This team is good and still has a chance to make a run....despite what you hear from other Sikeston "fans." The coaching staff has the situation in hand. They will get the kinks ironed out. I have personally witnessed this team's abilities and resolve.....this year's team. Don't lose heart! We are 7-2!!!! We lost to two good teams. When we get those "revenge" games and we take care of business, the opinions will change. Even if they don't, no matter. Let me assure you....the coaching staff will not make changes to the team's strategy based on some "expert" on semoball. Go Dogs!
-- Posted by Rocket689 on Sat, Dec 17, 2011, at 11:20 PM
Changing the defensive scheme isn't going to be the difference in these games. While the team is not ten deep this year, they still know how to wear teams out. The problem in the last two games (and in general) has been either the inability or refusal to work the ball towards the men inside. Jones gets a lot of credit now. Imagine if the team actually worked towards the inside more. Doesn't matter how good of shooters we have if we can't get them open and one of the main ways to do that is work more in-and-out plays as well as to let the opponent know that our inside guys are just as much a threat to score. The offense spends more time standing around watching than it needs to and everyone is trying to score but are not working as a unit, more as five individuals. Fixing these problems over the break will go a lot further towards getting this team improved than trying to overhaul the defense. The gameplan the coaches have implemented led them to a state title last year. While this isn't the same personnel, the system they are in has PROVEN to work with them running it. In no way am I against playing some man defense every now and again, but you make it seem like that would have been the difference in the game, and I guarantee it would not have been. Working the ball inside, drawing some fouls, getting physical, not being afraid of turnovers, and working off of each other. Those are what will make the difference. After the first quarter, the fouls were 6-2 in favor of ND. After the third, it was something like 7-1 ND. This was because they got it to their guys inside or were able to get in position off a turnover inside, and were able to get a layup or draw a foul. Meanwhile, some think it is a foul disparity that can be attributed to the refs but these same numbers have come up in almost every game. It is because of what I described earlier. Other teams are able to establish themselves inside and make things happen while Sikeston hasn't been able to. One thing that helped Sikeston last year was the physicality they displayed on both offense and defense with guys like Corey and Janeil. If this team can start to do that with guys like Keldon and JT, they will be fine. I think the improvement will come over the break. You just have to be patient and trust in what the coaching staff is doing. The team will be set over the next few weeks.
-- Posted by sideline starter on Sat, Dec 17, 2011, at 11:49 PM
Please keep in mind it is extremely difficult to have the Top Class 4 team in the state every season.
It's much easier to dominate over a decade at a Class 1 or Class 2 program.
-- Posted by Dustin Ward on Sun, Dec 18, 2011, at 12:32 AM
Sikeston is not a man to man team. Plain and simple. They are undersized every single night out on the court. They have some quickness, but some guys that aren't quick on outside. Who are they going to guard? When they play teams such as Cape Central or any decent Class 4 or 5 team with 6'5" guys and taller, who will guard them man to man? Come on people, Sikeston will be fine. They just need a little time to work out the kinks. They are 7-2 for Pete's sake. It's not like they are 2-7. Typical for some people to hit the panic button after two losses. That's probably why you aren't coaching. We heard these same things the last few years when Sikeston was playing zone when they were losing to Borgia 50-41 and people went crazy, "why are they playing zone??!?".....umm, we held them to 50 points! 20 or 30 under their average. The problem wasn't defense. It was offense! Bottom line is Sikeston needs better offense to win. ND scored 62 points on Friday in a win, compared to 63 in a loss to Sikeston.
-- Posted by semohoops on Sun, Dec 18, 2011, at 1:44 AM
Dustin-I have to disagree with the notion its easier to be great for a decade in the smaller schools. I dont think its easy in ANY class. I think it depends on the players you got, and more often then not the larger schools will have more talent(Please don't post about thats because they have more to choose from-that's a give-me). But occasionally some small schools have more talent in their starting 5 then some 5A schools have on their entire team(See last years SEMO Christmas tournament final) . Also it depends on the players, but more importantly the coach since the players are only there for four years(and thats if your playing varsity as a freshman). It seems the word tradition gets used when legacy would be more appropriate. For instance TRADITIONALLY Danny Farmer/Ron Cookson has/had their Charleston/SCC boys ready by February. Otto Porter/Tyler Hansbrough left behind a legacy at their respective schools.
BTW I mean no disrespect in this post Dustin. You do a great job. I just feel the boys get alot of credit(and I know they deserve it) but the coach (just like in any sport), gets all the blame when a "W" wasnt in the cards.
-- Posted by semolian on Sun, Dec 18, 2011, at 7:20 AM
Thanks side like I said befOre its a question.It wasnt like i said play man the whole game.All i ask is why the adjustment couldnt be made when a team changes the pace of the game with stalling.I agree the ball needs to go in to JT more on the other hand Keldon has butter fingers he hasnt caught a pass and held on to it that ive seen.He is more of a rebound put back man.A view is just that a view.There are coaches who take job openings.Doesnt mean they are coaches.Nothing against SHS coachs.LOOK at SHS girls they have a complete turn around since they have a COACH compared to the coach last year who was jus there for the job openeing.Like any team when you are hot you are hot when you struggle you struggle and work on fixing the problem.ONCE again thanks sideline
-- Posted by stlfan38 on Sun, Dec 18, 2011, at 8:02 AM
Isn't this the third season for Matt Schonoff coaching the Sikeston girls?
-- Posted by gianthook on Sun, Dec 18, 2011, at 8:51 AM
Semohoops you stand to be corrected.I am a coach have coached my AAU teams to 2 National titles out of 4 years.You can learn something from child like putting your foot in your mouth.LMBO.You have people in this world who have off the chart IQ,s but cant tie their shoe.Doesnt mean they arent smart they jus need help in an area they are weak.I stick to my theory THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH CHANGE in a defense THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH CHANGE in a offense.Its all about adjustments when they are needed.If u use the undersize theory.SHS had size with Porter,Beird,etc Still no adjustments to man to man.So your undersize theory is full of hot air.I know my BBALL game THANK YOU.
-- Posted by stlfan38 on Sun, Dec 18, 2011, at 8:53 AM
No actually his first he was Holifield asst for couple years think.Homer Jackson was before an before then Brooks.Matt is doin a excellent job with the girls.
-- Posted by stlfan38 on Sun, Dec 18, 2011, at 9:43 AM
This is his second season as Head Coach of the girls!
-- Posted by Haterade on Sun, Dec 18, 2011, at 10:20 AM
Well I think Oran and Chaffee should be ahead of both Oak Ridge and Delta at this point especially since Oak Ridge doesn't have Light for the tournamemt. Oran has more threats than any of the threats listed. Kinda hard to not say they're not a 9 seed. I don't think Chaffee would be doing as well as Oran if they had Oran's schedule so far.
-- Posted by Uncle Charlie on Sun, Dec 18, 2011, at 10:59 AM
You are right Hoops.Matts second year.He had the girls in the RIB CITY shootout.I remember now.
-- Posted by stlfan38 on Sun, Dec 18, 2011, at 11:05 AM
chaffee's record wouldn't be as good but I'm not sure they wouldve lost by 40 twice.. don't get me wrong I think Moore and ressel combined are more on offense than Chaffee has but I think Chaffee is better.. but no coach is going to vote Oran 9 in a Christmas tournament with that record.. there's no argument.. like in football.. Houston was ranked up as high as 9th.. and a team like Georgia wasn't but who's really better.
-- Posted by Thot McGee on Sun, Dec 18, 2011, at 11:11 AM
If Oran wouldn't save their 3 best J.V. players for strictly our J.V. who is undefeated they would have more depth off the bench but I agree Chaffee has more depth than Oran right now. Coach Shoemaker is trying to keep them together. Next year with them 3, Moore, Ressel, and Heuring it should be a good year for us. I look for each team to meet up in the Xmas tournament on day 3. Should be a pretty good game,
-- Posted by Uncle Charlie on Sun, Dec 18, 2011, at 12:39 PM
I have no clue on dexter.. idk anything about them I'll say sc by 5
-- Posted by Thot McGee on Sun, Dec 18, 2011, at 1:30 PM
First of all Ill like to start off by stating that I'm so happy that there is such knowledgeable basketball people on here. Especially you stlfan I can't believe Mizzou didn't hire you instead of Frank Haith with all of those AAU National Championships. In all honesty Sikestons problems are not what they are doing as much as how they are doing it. The team is not playing with any heart or tenacity right now and bottom line to be a pressing and trapping team you have to have both of those. They had it last year and thats why they were great. Thats why the Scott Central and Charleston teams of old were so great, yes i realize that Ctown played man but they still played with such incredible tenacity that it didn't matter one way or another. Sikeston will be fine they have lost ten games in four years doing what they are doing so lets not throw it under the bus yet. And on my last note Buckmajor that is the stupidest comment ever that NMCC played in the same environment that Sikeston played in the other night. ND could care less about that game they probably didn't even have a student section there tuesday night where as friday every student and their mother from ND was there friday. Not knocking NMCC but Stown vs ND is a rivalry that everyone from both sides gets fired up for.
-- Posted by Norm Stewart on Sun, Dec 18, 2011, at 2:07 PM
Thanks NORM your retired and your star is on the city hall doorsteps.I agree Sikeston has to get hungry and a fire has to start burning in their butts.Winning doesnt come easy.So maybe they will get the molassess out their butts and get it together.Maybe they will get tired of being talked about and go out every night like they have something to prove.Mizzou coach was my asst for 4 years he learned so much from me.LMBO.
-- Posted by stlfan38 on Sun, Dec 18, 2011, at 2:19 PM
I agree with what sideline said, I've noticed it also. They need to play more team ball as a unit not an individual game. That's what made last years team so good . This years team will learn and get it together I'm sure. So what if we lose a few, it happens.
-- Posted by TFA on Sun, Dec 18, 2011, at 2:29 PM
semolian
Interesting thoughts semolian. I get back with you regarding why I think this after I complete research.
-- Posted by Dustin Ward on Sun, Dec 18, 2011, at 2:30 PM
Dustin, in the past six years, there have been only six teams to make the state finals, Borgia (4), Sikeston (2), Kearney (2), ND (2), St. Charles West (1), Ruskin (1). Sikeston has been a top five team in Class 4 each of those years essentially (third in '06, top five in '07, top three in '08, second in '09, third in '10, and first in '11). And Borgia has been just as good. I'd say it is perfectly conceivable to be tops in Class 4 or 5 every year if you have the right program.
-- Posted by sideline starter on Sun, Dec 18, 2011, at 2:34 PM
Norm, I think there have been much more stupid comments made on here than my comment. 2nd, you said they PROBABLY didn't have a student section, well sir you weren't there, and you don't know for sure. Glad your an expert based off of speculation. 3rd, I was referring to the comments made about how it's hard to win at ND, cause refs favor ND, and that ND boosters pay the refs. Those comments are no longer on here, they have since been deleted. Wasn't even talking about the fans. So get your facts straight before you call me out, and then we will actually be able to have debates about the game.
-- Posted by BuckMajor on Sun, Dec 18, 2011, at 3:47 PM
Buck, got to admit I was wrong about some of the comments I made regarding nmcc basketball's program. I am glad to see them playing much better and I hope that nmcc continues to improve and make some noise in a very tough Class 3 group.
-- Posted by catfish_162001 on Sun, Dec 18, 2011, at 4:03 PM
Me too catfish. I'm glad to see them making improvements, and I think they will also be better after christmas. They have a good freshman class, that are slowly getting varsity playing time. Don't think they will be a big contender in districts this year, but with all the surprise games lately in SEMO basketball, you never know haha!
-- Posted by BuckMajor on Sun, Dec 18, 2011, at 4:19 PM
I think statistically teams are more likely to win multiple state titles in the same decade in Class 1 or 2.
I'll explore this when I get to the office around 9 p.m. tonight.
-- Posted by Dustin Ward on Sun, Dec 18, 2011, at 4:22 PM
Hoops...you are absolutely correct. The Dogs are not a man to man team. I can't believe some of these "fans." This reminds me of the old saying...... "It's better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
stlfan38....Coach Schonhoff is doing an AMAZING job with the girls. My question is this....what defense is he running???? Hmmm....yep....2-3 zone. Next question....why???? Hmmmm....because the team is undersized. Catch the recurring theme? Kinda sounds like the boys team. Why didn't you say he needed to play man when they lost to Dexter???
-- Posted by Rocket689 on Sun, Dec 18, 2011, at 5:09 PM
Because I wasnt at the game HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM Rocket.I call it how I see it. I was at the C game and at the ND game Check it.Say what you will U dont matter neither does your observation.I will say this till the crow crokes.U have to adjust your game.U sit here like im saying run man a whole game.NOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT but if the circumstances provide that u may have to change a a little then do so.Its not a size thing as i pointed out earlier.SHS had size with PORTER an BEIRD etc they ran zone so that BS about size is a phantum of your imagination.You act like somebody broke in your house stole your Chritmas presents whining like a little elf because I have an opinion about Man D.I dont care if its 1-3-1 do something differant for a change.Im sure any team that has SHS on their schedule says oh no adjustments they only play one DARN defense 2-3.
-- Posted by stlfan38 on Sun, Dec 18, 2011, at 5:46 PM
No whining here. It's just hilarious to hear the "experts" say what the coach should do after losses and less than a year removed from a state title.
Don't change your story now! You said the Dogs need to run some man. Now it's 1-3-1?? Which is it?
By the way...with the team you mentioned, they ran man as well. Just sayin.....
-- Posted by Rocket689 on Sun, Dec 18, 2011, at 6:33 PM
^^two losses
-- Posted by Rocket689 on Sun, Dec 18, 2011, at 6:47 PM
After listening to a few games on radio and reading the articles I see it like this. In the loss to Charleston, Sikeston shot 4-17 from behind the arc and the loss to ND shot 5-27 from behind the arc. If they pass the ball in to the post a little more, take more high percentage shots, they could have won them games. If they shoot better and make better decisions on offense then they'd be 9-0. Zone worked last year so I don't think it's that big of a problem this year. Sure, they may need to switch to man a few times in a game but I don't think it's that big a deal. I think after that Ctown game, their confidence is shaken a little and need to build it back up. They will work it out im sure. No need to panic if your a Sikeston fan
-- Posted by Cheesehead. on Sun, Dec 18, 2011, at 6:49 PM
They were actually 9-44 in those 2 games that's horrible that's the only reason they lost but that's what happens when you don't have an inside game they are not going to make shots every game.
-- Posted by BIGELW on Sun, Dec 18, 2011, at 7:46 PM
Dustin- I do not think your class 1 and 2 theory is correct. If you stay in the modern 4 and 5 class system only SCC and Portageville have more than 5 wins. Vashon has the second most wins (11) and Charleston(10) has the third most. Desmet has as many wins as Portageville and they are the largest school in Mo.
My theory on why small schools can dominate for a period of time is coaching. In a large school the odds of having a D1 player is much greater, just from the number of available players. Even if your not the best coach and have one or two D1 players on the team, the team will be pretty descent.
SCC was good while Cookson was the coach, but did not do much until he came back. Still not sure about Wright, it's not hard to have a good class 1 team with a top 50 D1 player on it.
-- Posted by igobybob on Sun, Dec 18, 2011, at 7:50 PM
Believe it or not, Sikeston does have other zone defenses that they have had in their arsenal the past few years. It's still early, they are working out the kinks and have not perfected a few things just yet. Give it time. For the record, since Sikeston has become strictly a "zone team" on defense, they have a record of 104-14. Lets give the coaches a little credit. I have a feeling that they know a little more about their team and their personnel than the people posting on this message board. I don't know, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe the AAU championship coaches on here know more. If that's the case then I wish they would apply for the job and see if we can improve on 104-14 the past four years.
-- Posted by semohoops on Sun, Dec 18, 2011, at 9:08 PM
Dang Myron Piggie is all riled up!
-- Posted by GSP on Mon, Dec 19, 2011, at 9:02 AM
I wonder where Dustin Ruby went...
-- Posted by FarmBoy06 on Mon, Dec 19, 2011, at 9:21 AM
FarmBoy06,
Being that the post below is the only thing he has said on this thread, it's funny that you would call him out here. Quit being a DH/DA.
How many did Monroe have cheese? A couple kids from school said he was a manchild when they seen him
-- Posted by Dustin Ruby on Tue, Dec 13, 2011, at 9:00 PM
-- Posted by rocketsbro on Mon, Dec 19, 2011, at 9:52 AM
Dustin Ruby doesn't shy away after a loss that's for sure. He isn't on much after football season but he will post from time to time. Me and Dustin have had our problems on here but he has never backed down from a loss. Much respect to him!
-- Posted by Cheesehead. on Mon, Dec 19, 2011, at 10:06 AM
Farmboy? Really? Wow! You are picking a fight I don't think ONE ND win can hold up to...
What is that line you always say? Stay Classy!
-- Posted by Haterade on Mon, Dec 19, 2011, at 10:15 AM
Roar...wow.
Just wondering. He usually posts every day, I haven't seen him anywhere in 3 or 4 days. Someone's a little testy...
-- Posted by FarmBoy06 on Mon, Dec 19, 2011, at 1:40 PM
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