All time starting five from each SEMO area school?
Daniel Sexton and Ed Farr as my shooting threats every night? I'll take my chances. Willie Jimmerson and Dereke Tipler as a dual PG/to the basket threat? I'll take it..
Big men, you had some good ones.. could have easily taken Donnie Brown, Minner (Fig) or even Ronland (Rolo) Ranson at this position... But Travis is my guy.
Not saying they're the best of all time, but If I had to take a starting 5, these are my guys.
I know I'm overlooking some folks from the 88 team.. but hey, I wasn't very old then.
04,05 Poplar Bluff teams, easily
Tony Wofford, anyone?
Tony Wofford in NMCC top 10 for sure!
How about Coach Compton era New
Madrid Indians, Indian 73 ?
I don't know really anything about Senath but I heard that Moore kids name a ton the last few years.
The old NMHS was before consolidation... think Compton era had very few all-state players. His era ran from about '58 thru maybe'77.. 20 years... not sure bout players in his first 10 years but probably Mark Baker(71) and George ( junebug) Ross(70) would be 2 that stand out... NMCC is a totally different school comprised of Parma, New Madrid, Matthews and Lilbourn (Howardville).
Don't think Randy Benson ever played for Senath Hornersville.
He was just Senath.
PG- Tyler Landewee
SG- Blake Bauwens
SF- Winston Welter
PF- Carter Dame
C- Dawson Dohogne
These players are overqualified if you ask me
You can't leave Ronnie Ressel of the Notre Dame list. He was an exceptional high school point guard.
North Pemiscot, after the consolidation (just a start)
Do you think Lemi was better than his brother?
Dr.Greg Flaker of notre dame was a starting guard for Norm Stewart each side of 1970 or thereabouts
I could have them mixed up, BonScott. I would rate one of them definitely above the other.
Lemi's older brother graduated in '91. He was very good. His only problem was Scott County Central.:)
These come to mind for Kennett; feel free to contribute.
Tony Wofford was one of the Goats...From what I hear. I decided to choose among the players I actually remember seeing play, so he was excluded.
I'm going to go by players I have seen only.
Names I hear before my time
TheNewsReporter, how can you leave Greg Flaker off the ND list? He still holds the school record for most career points and played at Mizzou
Enjoyable part of these lists is it helps you remember players you haven't thought about for a while. Glad to see David Guetle mentioned at Dexter. Had a killer baseline head fake move. Also made me think of Gary Crane , Mike McGuire , and Scott Kruse's 28 ppg senior year
Hope to see folks from the following schools listed at the end of this post to share their lists. It's easy for me to think of 2, 3 or 4 players, but my memory isn't as good as those who have followed them throughout the years. To jog their memory, I'll post one name.
Scott Central - Otto Porter (good luck trying to pick only 5!)
Bernie - Anthony Beane
Richland - Harold Persfull
Bloomfield - Mike Wise
Hayti - Benny Johnson
Caruthersville - Joe Cagle
Portageville - Antonio Sykes
Advance - Carl Ritter
Delta C-7 - Terry Mead
Gideon - Roger Patillo
Anyone named Porter
Anyone named Timmons
Anyone named Blissett
Jamie Sifford on dexter
Brad Carson for campbell
Fred Towns- Sikeston
Come on birdfan give us the all time Jays starting 5. I'll give you some help....Ricky Frazier to start and you pick the other 4...
For Risco, Greg Collier
I think you could make an argument on the sikeston list JT Jones and Vashawn Ruffin. Kevin Jones may be up there by the end as well. In saying that I wasn't around to know much about the players in sikeston history other than it was nowhere near the program it is today.
One might add Stacy Nolen and/or Lex Drum to the discussion.
Nolen perhaps, but I wouldn't add Drum because he didn't play as many games as the others listed.
Glad to see everyone enjoying this post. Love to see old guys listed that I don't know as much about. Looking forward to the Jays team.
Whenever someone from Charleston contributes a post, I hope they don't overlook "Larry Briggs" (1967). Would have started at SEMO as a freshman had they been able to do so back then.
If you could build that best lineup from each school which one would you take to win? My top 3 would likely be SCC, PB and Charleston with SCC having the edge just because of so many to pick from. Playing time would be hard to come by on that team. But Ricky and some fellow Bluejays and Tyler, Ben and some other Mules would be hard to beat.
They were before my time and it was certainly a different era of ball but Win Wilfong's Puxico teams would have to get some props I'd think.
Fun stuff to think about.
Anybody from hayti cville or pville got some starting 5s??
What about Malden?
I'm anxious to see if the pville folks take willie hassell or tory saxton or antonio sikes or roy booker who has been playing pro ball overseas for year that team is loaded
Anyone from Delta.
So many to choose from at Charleston. Yesterday was Larry Briggs' birthday and I told him that I remind the younger generation in Charleston that the Ricky Frazier led '75 team was not the first Charleston team to go to state; it was the Larry Briggs led Jays in '67.
Just some names to throw out there:
Cedric Rodgers-San Jacinto CC
Many others played at the next level and/or turned down the chance to play at the next level
Left off some youngsters:
Greg Tucker-Jacksonville State
Ashton Farmer-Arkansas State
Kewain Gant-Arkansas State
Dell Bogan-Jacksonville State
Jamarcus Williams- TRCC
Understand the difficulty in limiting to 5 bluejays. Whenever they were guarding you it seemed like 8 were on the floor the floor anyway.
And birdfan left off the best defender I ever played against from Charleston, Leonard Corbit(sp).
Saw Larry Briggs in high school. He was an outstanding talent. On the Poplar Bluff list, need to have some consideration for Tom Hoover and Bob Cradic.
I can't give you the whole 5 from Coach Scott's Malden crew with Ray Pugh and Robert Ison but they were pretty dang good.
3R, Donnie Jenkins and
Wade Burnett were two other players on the 85 Malden team. BonScott,your about to start a whole new thread talking about tough defenders. I'll mention Claude McFerron as one from
For Portageville definitely William Durden. He went on to play at Austin peay..
Talking about Malden. During the span from 1984-1991, they produced some great centers and power forwards. Pugh, Ison, Jones, Shurn, and Maddox. Besides Pugh, Louis Shurn in my opinion was the next best one.
Early 70's...can't remember all the names, but that is when I remember the start of the true Charleston basketball dynasty.
Henry Hall....but I can't remember the others. They were class L in those days...when it was just L,M,and S.
How about he great Richland team of 1972.
The Sims' brothers....both played at 3R's...perhaps winning a National Championship there?
I don't believe the Sims boys were on that '79 team at TRCC, but I could be mistaken.
Henry Hall played alongside Alvin Pearce and Albri Cassell. Dennis and John Sims finished at Richland in 72. I don't think John went to TR with Dennis.
I bet it's safe to say Charleston had more players go on to play college than any other school around. Especially division 1. I don't think any other school is anywhere close to them.
Henry Hall, Albri Cassell, Dan Smith, Eric Pierce, Alvin Pierce, Richard Lawrence, Woody Simmons.....I was a couple of years younger than these guys but got to play on the tournament teams with them. Cape Central was our Class L nemesis with the likes of Dick Buxton, Hunter Stigemeyer, Roland Daye, Mike Uhls
Also 6'9" Stan Ray as a sophomore on that Cape Central team
Since we are mired in the early 70's, birdfan were u on the bluejay football team that started a season with 7 straight shutouts?
The Sims boys were not on the 79 Championship team. They were fun to watch though. I remember watching Dennis injure his back when he went up for a rebound and got his rearend caught on the shoulders of guy that stood 6'8" and rolled off and hit the floor flat on his back. That dude had some serious hops! I think he still holds the single game rebound record for 3R men with 27 in a game. A Lady Raider broke the school record with 28 or 29 in a game but I can't think of her name at the moment.
ErnieD.........as a matter of fact, yes I was; I was the qb on that team
Otto Porter Sr
Otto Porter Jr
Way back...... for Cape Central, Kermit Meystedt and Dan Milligan.
Puxico is the SEMO area team that I have watched the most over the last 30 plus years, so I will list who I think would be the all-time starting five for them..
Blackburn and John Smith were the only 2 that I actually got the chance to consistently watch as Wilfong, Arnold, and Grady were before I was old enough to watch sports.
I once checked out an old 8mm film in Kent Library at SEMO of one of the Puxico state championship games (no sound). Typically, when seeing footage of "vintage" players from many years ago, it is obvious to conclude they might have trouble competing today. I was prepared to make that assessment of Win Wilfong prior to watching the film. Afterward, from that point forward, I always told people emphatically, "Win Wilfong" could have played in any era!
By the way, Vivan Reed was a terrific player at Puxico, and became an important playmaking guard for the SEMO team starred Carl Ritter (Advance) that finished 2nd in the nation.
Like Wilfong, Grady, and Arnold; Vivan Reed was a little before my time as well. Completely forgot about him but you are right, he definitely deserves to be in that conversation. Had I thought of him before making my starting five, would probably have put him on there instead of John Smith.
I saw Vivan play a couple times with the local(mostly aging) "all stars" against the St Louis football Cardinals around 1973-74. They had a game each year to raise funds for the Poplar Bluff FCA. The guy was a dynamo!!
Comparing era's is somewhat difficult partially from the fact that the African-American population was not participating in Semo when Wilfong and for that matter Vivian Reed were playing.There were certainly good white players then as now , but how many good players did we never get to see? The Lilbourn teams my relatives played for prior to the mid-sixties hardly compare to the Lilbourn teams I played against ten years later.
In my opinion, you can compare era's because everything evolves. The great players in the '50s would also be great players in the 2000s. And they may have been even better because of the new technology....I always think about Babe Ruth when this discussion comes up. Look what he did in the 20s and 30s. Who knows what he could have done in today's game with all the fitness and nutrition. It's fun to think about.
A lot to agree with there
BonScott. The evolution in footwear alone has made some difference. I've often maintained your position about good athletes being good athletes in any time period. However, when the supply of athletes rapidly became larger in Semo then this region of the state started winning state championships. Local competition increased and all basketball players had to evolve faster than normal or find another sport.
A good thing in my estimation.
All that being said, I think one of the challenges for high school sports in Semo is depopulation.
Another mention for Puxico would be Ken Andrews. He was on the 1973 Memphis State national runner-up.
The peak of SEMO area basketball was the 70's and 80's.
You had full integration and it was before the mass migration out of the area.
I don't remember them, but I have an older sibling who said perhaps the most talented team he ever saw was a mid 60's or even an early 60's Howardsville team.
Don't know much about them...but evidently they were really good.
The Howardville Hawks finished 2nd in the 1968 class S state final, losing to Bradleyville in 3 overtimes. Leading players were 6'6" Littles , 6'6" Reuben Marsh, and 5'7" William Gray . Lennies McFerron had already graduated.I believe Howardville high school was in existence less than 10 years. Reuben Marsh finished playing as a Lilbourn Panther.
Whoops, I think it was 4 overtimes.
Didn't Howardville have a point guard by the name of Nathaniel something?? His last name escapes me.
My cousin played for Bell City, that year, and they met Howardville in a post season game, maybe a regional championship or one step up. BC had a very good team but just couldn't compete with Howardville's size.
Birdfan, maybe Nathaniel Fox, not sure
I think the guard's name on the 1968 team might have been "Nate Thomas." He was a dandy!
There's a photo of the Howardville team on Barry Beacham's Facebook team.
Oops, meant to say Barry Beacham's Facebook "Page."
Nate Thomas, that's him!
I inquired about this to a guy who is easily the most knowledgeable Poplar Bluff basketball historian..... He was too modest to put himself on the list but he named the following:
Howard Garrett has to be on that list...and maybe one of the best athletes to come out of Poplar Bluff, Billy Piper.
I felt the same way about Garrett and he was on my list...... This guy played with Howard, so I'm not sure why he slipped his mind. It was "off the top of his head"...
He was an all-stater, I believe the year after Garrett. It's pretty easy to figure out who I'm talking about....
I know who you're talking about...:) My father graduated from Bluff in 1960. He was at the game when they played Crystal City and I believe Bluff almost beat them. He said Bill Bradley was the best high school player he ever saw in person.
I would have to also put Tony Webb on that list.
I know very little about the history of Bluff. Having said that, for those of you who do know the history of Bluff. How good could have Jay Raulston been if he could have stayed with it? It just seemed like that guy had a load of ability.
Ron Dunning deserves a mention for Poplar Bluff. All State in '65. Went to play at MAC and Henderson State. Great shooter.
Early on there was talk of possible Tyler-like production out of Jay. But that never came to be.
Tyler and Jay played in totally different systems and that had a little to do with it. Jay had a lot of talent that really showed at the college level.
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